How Hashish Helped Navigate the Path from Homelessness to Profitable Budtender » Emily Kyle, MS, RDN

This dialog is a testomony to resilience and perseverance and a strong endorsement of the therapeutic powers of hashish. Be part of us at the moment as our visitor, Kalye Obendorf recounts her triumphant journey from overcoming homelessness to turning into a profitable budtender and the exceptional function hashish has performed.

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• Launch Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2023
• Episode Quantity: Season 1, Episode 47
• Particular Visitor: Kalye Obendorf

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Kalye: I’ve actually survived every little thing. Home violence, automotive accidents. I’ve survived PTSD. I’ve survived studying methods to stroll, shifting from state to state, being homeless, and many alternative issues. I’ve survived it.

Announcer: Welcome to the Effectively With Hashish Podcast, a present devoted to telling the life-changing tales of those that reside nicely with hashish all whereas educating you methods to do the identical. Meet your host, Emily Kyle, a registered dietitian nutritionist turned licensed holistic hashish practitioner. Emily modified her life for the higher with the assistance of the hashish plant, and now she’s dedicated to serving to others do the identical.

Tune in every week to listen to heartwarming tales and acquire the information it is advisable to really feel linked, impressed, and supported by yourself hashish journey. Whether or not you’re a new hashish client or a lifetime lover, you’ll profit from these uplifting tales of real-life journeys that can present you the way you, too, can reside your finest life nicely with hashish.

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Emily: Good day, and welcome again to a different episode of the Effectively With Hashish Podcast. I’m tremendous excited to be right here with our subsequent visitor at the moment, Ms. Kalye Obendorf. Kalye, welcome. Thanks a lot for becoming a member of us at the moment. 

Kalye: You’re so welcome. Thanks for having me. 

Emily: You will have so many alternative ways in which hashish has impacted your life, and I’m actually excited to listen to about all these other ways. I’m going to provide the flooring. Inform us just a little bit about you and what hashish means to you in your life. 

Kalye: I’m from Idaho, born and raised. I lived there till I used to be about 27, after which I moved to Oregon. I used to be raised on the mistaken aspect of the tracks, I suppose you possibly can say. My household had it actually onerous. My dad and my mother had been each addicts. They all the time used hashish as a fallback after they would get clear. And so it was all the time their gateway out. 

Kalye: I used to be all the time raised with it as a fixture in our life. My mother cooked with it; my grandma made salves with it. She all the time used it for medicinal functions. It was by no means truly like a celebration factor. You understand how all people checked out it. And so, as I used to be rising up, the legal guidelines stayed the identical; it’s unlawful in Idaho. They usually by no means swayed. I by no means understood why it was unlawful, in order I used to be rising up and saved going by means of this stuff, I simply saved studying increasingly more about it because it was nonetheless a staple in my life.

Kalye: My dad and mom are each on parole due to weed. My complete household acquired in bother for it. I puzzled why we weren’t shifting, nevertheless it was truly simply actually onerous for them to choose up and go. 

Kalye: I’ve been in automotive accidents and am a recovering ache tablet addict. Medical doctors simply needed to offer you medication; they didn’t actually wish to assist. I used to be in a automotive accident once I was 19, proper out of faculty. I completed faculty the day earlier than, and my first husband and I had been driving to pay a invoice. We acquired right into a wreck. I broke 27 bones, and my son handed away. I had damaged my pelvis, so I used to be in a wheelchair for 4 years.

Kalye: I used to be too younger for the docs to wish to carry out surgical procedure, so for the subsequent 4 years, all I may do was attempt to combat the ache as a result of I couldn’t management it. Hashish allowed me to get clear from the ache drugs; now, it’s all I take advantage of. I’ve had 21 surgical procedures; 17 of them had been to restore the harm to my physique, and my fallback is all the time weed. I take advantage of it for every little thing. It provides me my high quality of life again. I don’t should resort to taking a tablet each 4 hours. It’s the one factor that has ever been a continuing constructive in my life.

Emily: That may be a loopy story. I’m so sorry to listen to about all of that occuring to you. I actually wish to speak, although, concerning the ache drugs. So many individuals are prescribed these drugs by their physician, they usually suppose these are their solely choices. Many individuals say it doesn’t essentially assist the ache 100%, nevertheless it retains them in that cycle of needing extra. And so, for anybody in that state of affairs who’s contemplating shifting to hashish, what recommendation do you’ve got for them? How did you do it?

Kalye: Slowly. They had been giving me 120 oxycodone per 30 days, and I used to be taking six a day. I slowly weaned myself off half a tablet at a time and would use a topical. I acquired the strongest topicals I may discover as a result of I had damaged my hip and wanted that complete space to be manageable. Sooner or later, the ache was so unhealthy that you just couldn’t contact me with out me cringing and crying in ache.

Kalye: My physique was so used to the ache drugs that after they would put on off, it felt like I used to be on hearth. It was terrible. I slowly weaned myself off half a tablet at a time and used hashish as an alternative. I might smoke a joint or roll on a topical. 

Kalye: I discovered methods to stroll once more after I moved to Oregon. I used to be in a position to make use of hashish recreationally how I wanted to with out authorized implications. My physician was already advantageous with it as a result of I used to be on the tail finish of my ache tablet contract. After you’re on ache drugs for a sure period of time, they put you on a contract. 

Emily: Wow, that’s loopy. So the docs had been joyful and useful in your transition to hashish. Is that appropriate? 

Kalye: Sure. They had been joyful that I used to be coming off of the ache drugs as a result of I had been on them for nearly 10 years straight. That was simply because I couldn’t handle the ache. It was simply an excessive amount of. There was an excessive amount of of my physique damaged. They had been involved about my ache tablet utilization as a result of my kidney, liver, and pancreas had been all beginning to shut down. He didn’t drug check me as a result of he knew that if I got here again with a constructive drug check, they’d lower me off fully, and I might be blacklisted in each hospital on a database. 

Emily: You aren’t the primary individual to inform me that, and I’m all the time mind-blown that they aren’t solely anti-cannabis but in addition very unhelpful to the sufferers that they declare to care about. You begin to surprise in the event that they actually care concerning the sufferers or if it’s all simply paperwork and transactions to them. That’s what it looks like after they lower folks off for utilizing THC, particularly when making an attempt to wean off different issues the suitable method. It’s as in the event that they’re saying that they’d relatively sufferers should undergo all of it chilly turkey, they usually don’t need them to learn about it. It’s loopy to me.

Kalye: The explanation why they do it’s as a result of they work for large pharma. And in the event that they don’t maintain us coming again, then they don’t have a constant earnings. After which they’re out of a job, and we’re wholesome. Why would they need us to be wholesome? They will’t go to the physician. 

Emily: It’s so true and so unhappy and so loopy. What has your transition been like from Idaho to Oregon? You went from one of many strictest to some of the liberal states. What was that like? 

Kalye: It was loopy. It was loopy socially. It was loopy medicinally. I needed to discover a physician who was okay with hashish use as a result of not the entire docs had been, regardless that Oregon is a authorized state. They needed to do a whole analysis to re-diagnose my CPTSD and despair from the entire trauma in my life. Generally, they received’t prescribe folks psychological well being medicines in the event that they use hashish as a result of they consider they counteract. I all the time puzzled how they may counteract since we’ve got an endocannabinoid system. 

Emily: It’s so imply. 

Kalye: It’s. After which I began bud-tending over right here. I acquired my license. I serve day by day, and I discovered all these legal guidelines. I advocate strongly with the physician’s workplaces and freak out on them. 

Emily: So I feel you’re the primary budtender that I’ve truly met in actual life. I’m so excited. Do you thoughts speaking just a little bit about that? As a result of I’m tremendous .

Kalye: I completely can. What would you wish to know?

Emily: What does a day in your work life appear like? 

Kalye: So I don’t know if I can say the title of the corporate that I work for. So, I’m simply going to say I work in Ontario at one of many larger dispensaries. We’re the highest gross sales in the entire shops that my firm, a conglomerate of dispensaries, owns. We’re proper off the freeway, so typically the road is out the door and across the nook. Critically. It’s like that every one day lengthy. Some days I promote sixty kilos. There’s a two-ounce per day authorized restrict, however I additionally promote grams of wax and different merchandise. It’s wonderful as a result of we’ve got a curbside service. What’s higher than pulling as much as get your weed introduced out?

Emily: That’s the perfect, particularly for people who’re sick. It’s an excellent service for our aged and our sick of us. They don’t should get sick. You’ll be able to carry it proper to them. How enjoyable. Do you take pleasure in it? 

Kalye: I adore it very a lot. Some days are emotionally onerous as a result of I’m like a counselor. My clients will reveal every little thing proper at my counter, and by the tip of it, I’m crying, she’s crying, we’re all crying. Some days, I’m like their therapist.

Emily: For therefore many individuals, after they go to a dispensary, it’s their first introduction to any type of hashish. You’re the primary individual they get to speak to, in order that they phrase vomit as a result of they don’t know what to say or do. Your function is so necessary for these clients’ journeys. I’ll wager you do really feel like a therapist loads of the time.

Kalye: I yeah, I do. And I really feel like, as a budtender, I’ve a information that most individuals don’t have proper at my fingertips. I’ve a pc proper there that I can go surfing to in order that I can search for something I have to. I all the time inform my clients the reality about what they’re getting. I by no means attempt to swindle them out of cash. I’m a salesman, sure, and I’ll upsell you. However you’re going to get a greater product and received’t stroll away unknowingly. You’ll know one thing new about hashish by the point you allow my counter. I can’t say that for another budtenders, however I’m undoubtedly going to let you know one thing. 

Emily: Say any person must go to the dispensary, however they’re scared. What recommendation do you give to the folks strolling into that door for the primary time? 

Kalye: Do your homework on the place you wish to go and what you wish to see. Not each dispensary is similar, and also you would possibly wish to go to the smaller ones that aren’t as widespread first. The larger dispensaries may be overwhelming as a result of there are folks elbow to elbow in there, they usually’re making an attempt to get them by means of but in addition making an attempt to be skilled about it and never simply make a sale. Smaller dispensaries have extra time to offer you one-on-one; you’ll want that as a first-timer. I don’t suppose {that a} dispensary ought to be like a sweet store until you’re utilizing it recreationally. In the event you’re wanting to make use of it medicinally, try to be keen to pay attention for simply 5 minutes as a result of there’s extra to the product you’re getting.

Emily: Oh, my gosh, that’s nice recommendation. Thanks a lot for sharing that. You’re our first budtender, so I really feel like all people can study a lot from you. It’s superior. Thanks. 

Kalye: I may speak for hours. I adore it.

Emily: As I stated, you’re the primary budtender, and many individuals are so scared to go to the dispensary. Most of the folks that I work with and who hearken to this present are of the older technology. It’s straightforward for youthful generations to go to the dispensary as a result of we all know what concentrates are and what flower is. For individuals who have solely ever skilled a bag of weed within the Nineteen Seventies, the dispensary may be overwhelming because of the variety of totally different sorts of merchandise they’ve by no means heard of earlier than. 

Emily: They don’t know methods to use them; they don’t know what to make use of them for. And, as you stated, in the event that they’re coming in with a medical mindset versus a leisure mindset, they most likely are on the lookout for one thing just a little bit extra particular, however they don’t know what they’re on the lookout for. And that’s why I’ve all the time stated budtenders are there that will help you.

Emily: And it’s so good to listen to you say, “That is what I do. I’m right here that will help you.” Lots of people are nervous, they usually’re afraid they’re going to look silly after they stroll as much as the counter. However I feel simply listening to from you that it’s a very regular expertise, hopefully brings just a little consolation to folks as they go ahead.

Kalye: For certain. And bear in mind, I’m a civil servant. You’re a paying buyer. You’re the rationale why my youngsters have meals on their desk. So don’t be afraid to ask questions. It’s our job to know. 

Emily: That’s so candy and such good recommendation. Now, you’re working within the dispensary. How does life look with hashish now? Are you utilizing it medicinally or recreationally? How is that becoming in?

Kalye: I actually use it for every little thing. I take advantage of tub bombs. I take advantage of hemp in my shampoo and conditioner, in my hair dye, and in my lotion. I smoke recreationally. It’s just about a staple in my hand. I’ve it subsequent to my bedside desk. It’s like a espresso station, however I’ve a weed station. I get a reduction by means of my work, so I spend just a little bit of cash on the dispensary. I get ideas day by day, in order that helps rather a lot. 

Emily: That’s good. And also you had talked about earlier, you stated improved high quality of life. Discuss just a little bit about what that appears like for you and for anybody who’s unsure how hashish might help past simply the apparent.

Kalye: So my ache tablet dependancy led into an alcohol dependancy, after which it led into tougher medication all through my life. It took me till I used to be 26, 27 to essentially nosedive. My dad died and I simply, I misplaced it. I used to be depending on a drug or a drink or one thing and hashish ended up changing all of that. I used tincture to assist with the withdrawals from alcoholism, and I give up ingesting 4 years in the past. 

Emily: Congratulations. 

Kalye: Thanks. The opposite onerous medication had been due to the ache. Once more, I used to be in loads of ache, in fact. I simply changed the entire prescriptions with hashish in some style. I used lotions as a result of you possibly can put lotion on 1,000,000 instances a day, you don’t ever really feel a head excessive and also you get all of the medicinal advantages. So it was comforting to know I had that medical backing and I wasn’t doing it alone. 

Emily: Completely. Did you are feeling such as you had loads of help as you transitioned? Did your loved ones, partner, or anyone else help you, or did you discover that you just did it alone? What did that appear like? 

Kalye: I did. I did have a backing, however I additionally didn’t have a backing as a result of no one adopted the way in which I did it. They went off on their very own, and I nonetheless ended up doing it alone. They agreed, however they weren’t with me on it. 

Emily: Any recommendation for somebody on the market who feels tremendous alone, who looks like they’re too scared to maneuver ahead in hashish as an answer? 

Kalye: Don’t be afraid to strive new issues. Even if you happen to’re afraid of THC, all you want is only a hair of THC in your lotion for it to do exactly greater than sufficient. CBD is definitely higher in medicinal style; you solely want just a little bit. So don’t be scared. The numbers don’t equal the quantity. 

Emily: Positively. Oh my gosh, that’s nice recommendation as a result of so many individuals, if they’ll push by means of that first concern and have the prospect to expertise it then they know if it’s proper for them, and if it’s not, no drawback. Whether it is best for you, you possibly can unlock this complete sort of stunning new world with hashish. 

Kalye: After which it leaves you open to many issues as a result of now you’re not depending on, as an example, taking a tablet in 4 hours after which understanding you could’t drive in that timeframe since you’re going to be dizzy on a regular basis. You’ll be able to simply put a topical in your pores and skin.

Emily: Oh, that’s good. And I really like that you just maintain mentioning topicals as a result of so many individuals concern that head excessive. They’re afraid to make use of hashish as a result of they don’t wish to get excessive. However particularly for our older technology, placing it on the pores and skin is just not going to make you excessive, nevertheless it offers you reduction. It may be tremendous, tremendous helpful, particularly for ache. I’m so glad that you just maintain mentioning that for anybody who desires to strive hashish however is afraid. It’s most likely the perfect first step for you as a result of it’s a protected approach to experiment.

Kalye: That’s appropriate. That’s the most secure and best approach to do it. Everyone thinks about edibles. No. 

Emily: Not in your first time. Take a while on that. But when yow will discover the topicals, it’s such a reduction that you should use it as steadily as you need all through the day with out worrying about being impaired or feeling unwell. It’s simply that good resolution.

Kalye: Appropriate. After which even when the topicals don’t give you the results you want, and you must ingest, there’s RSO, tinctures, dabs, every little thing. My mother has three autoimmune ailments and has fully transitioned from prescription drugs to multivitamins and hashish.

Kalye: My ex-husband had most cancers, and he was all holistic, no prescription drugs in any respect, and RSO saved his life. It put him into remission. 

Emily: That’s loopy. 

Kalye: Yeah. Okay, so that is going to be bizarre, however my grandmother saved a cat’s life. The cat had been attacked by a squirrel, and she or he used horse liniment and hashish in a salve, put it within the cat’s wound, and it healed. The vets wouldn’t function on it as a result of they thought the cat had no likelihood of residing, and it lived. My grandma saved his life with only a trim! Simply put it in a poultice and slap it on that cat’s head.

Emily: Oh my gosh, that’s wonderful.

Kalye: Don’t chew a cat to place salve on it, however… 

Emily: But when it really works, so many individuals are additionally on the lookout for reduction for his or her animals. Cats and canine can undoubtedly profit from hashish. Now, I ought to say canine and cats shouldn’t ingest a lot THC orally. She saved that cat! That’s loopy!

Kalye: Yeah. It’s actually a miracle drug. You are able to do every little thing with it. There are countless prospects. You’ll be able to run your automotive off of it.

Emily: I wager you see a ton of success tales working within the dispensary as nicely. Do you? Do folks come again and say, “What you really useful helped me?” 

Kalye: Yeah, I do. Truly, I do see rather a lot. I’ve a, I suppose, a fan base. Like yesterday, a buyer walked in and greeted me by title, and I’m like, I didn’t bear in mind him. I see 150 folks a day.

Emily: Oh, however that they remembered you and the expertise you gave them after which your suggestions modified their life and improved their high quality of life needs to be such a superb feeling on the finish of the day. 

Kalye: It’s a good feeling. My complete life, I’ve all the time needed to work on this business. I cherished it when the 90-year-old who got here into my bud station left with extra information than he had coming in, and he was keen to confess that it really works as an alternative of combating towards it. I’ve to assist change the older technology’s mindset on hashish as a result of they’re the rationale it’s unlawful within the first place. That was an awesome feeling. If I by no means achieved anything, that was the rationale I selected to do that job.

Emily: That’s stunning. I really like that. And I really feel for therefore many people who’ve been positively impacted by means of hashish; we really feel like we’ve got to show round and assist others after which really feel like that assist truly got here to fruition and improved the standard of another person’s life. That’s simply the perfect feeling. I’m so joyful for you. 

Kalye: Thanks. And it was wonderful as a result of he was truly 87 years outdated and he was like, he was very adamantly unsure about this. He thought that it wasn’t okay and wasn’t regulated as a result of it’s not a pharmacy. I all the time reply with the road, “Medical doctors go to high school for 12 years to say they follow medication. I acquired the privilege of spending $100 for the power to truly give medication and really do one thing for the subsequent 5 years.”

Emily: That’s gotta be so wonderful. 87 years outdated, and it modified his thoughts in a method for the higher. After which, hopefully, he goes out and tells his buddies, they usually inform their buddies, and it simply snowballs into what is going to hopefully be a multi-generational change over time.

Kalye: We even have. I work the night time shift, and we even have a very totally different crowd from morning to nighttime the aged are available on the nighttime, after which the partiers are available, just like the extra leisure, they go within the daytime just like the music is even totally different there too in the course of the day and the night time.

Emily: Attention-grabbing. It’s a must to see such all kinds of consumers coming out and in the door.

Kalye: Sure, I do. I see each gambit.  

Emily: Everyone makes use of hashish. They only don’t say it out loud. 

Kalye: Appropriate. And like everybody, all people, actually all people, and we’re proper off the freeway so all people stops there. Generally the parking is non-existent.

Emily: And also you’re in Oregon. It’s loopy that it’s been authorized for that lengthy and you continue to have strains wrapped round. We don’t have dispensaries. They’re getting arrange right here in New York state, they usually say there are strains. That’s comprehensible for the primary couple of days, however Oregon is years in and nonetheless has strains across the door. That’s loopy.

Kalye: Now we have 12 shops in Ontario by itself. And each single one in every of them, relying on the day, could possibly be elbow to elbow. I do know that my dispensary has two shops in Ontario, and they’re the highest gross sales out of all of our shops.

Kalye: There’s 44 shops that my firm owns throughout Oregon and three different states they usually’re shopping for in three extra. They’re the identical two homeowners like they’re not like an organization. And they’re all localized they usually originated in Portland and day by day we do most likely 100,000 gross sales.

Emily: That’s wonderful and so thrilling to listen to that they’re increasing. There are such a lot of states, like Texas and Arkansas, the place it’s nonetheless so unlawful, and it’s so onerous for folks to get merchandise. They will’t stroll right into a dispensary. To listen to that we’re truly making progress and also you’re increasing throughout the nation is thrilling. I simply can’t wait till we see some federal legalization. Everyone can have the chance to line up at a dispensary and meet you. 

Kalye: That’s appropriate. And we’re getting nearer. They really simply handed a legislation for seeds. So in the event that they’re not within the dust, seeds are in a position to ship to all 50 states. That’s authorized on the Farmers Act, like USDA.

Emily: Yeah, I noticed that only recently acquired handed. I’m so excited!

Kalye: Yeah. It’s wonderful. I noticed this web site, and I puzzled why they had been promoting seeds, so I researched and found that it was authorized. I assumed it was wonderful.

Kalye: That broadens the horizon a lot. Lots of the vegetation are in cryostasis. They will now be moved from state to state, and it’s not federally unlawful. 

Emily: It’s such a reduction, and I’m such an enormous proponent of individuals rising their very own at residence anyway. I need individuals who go outdoors and develop a tomato or a zucchini in the summertime to have the ability to throw in a hashish plant. 

Kalye: Sure, completely.

Emily: I need folks to really feel like that’s a traditional factor that we do in our tradition. And so listening to that did go and that’s extra accessible, and folks might be much less scared to purchase them for authorized repercussions. It’s thrilling. It’s the future, hopefully. 

Kalye: I hope I nonetheless reside to see it. And I hope that you just reside to see it too. I do know it’s been over 100 years outdated combat. 

Emily: It’s loopy, however then I feel we’ve got seen a lot progress within the final 10 years that it makes me really feel optimistic as a result of I’m normally pessimistic about it, however I’ve to look on the brilliant aspect. And we’ve got made loads of progress, which is wonderful.

Kalye: Now we have undoubtedly made loads of progress while you have a look at the entire image, however actually, it’s identical to a snail’s tempo. And that’s simply because the federal government is aware of that they tousled. It’s a money crop. We’re gonna take over, they usually’re gonna lose, and all people’s gonna be joyful. We’re all gonna be hippies. That’s all. We’re all gonna be hippies. We’re all gonna be smoking weed. 

Emily: Everybody’s gonna be joyful. Everybody’s gonna be feeling good. Everybody’s gonna be off their meds. It’s simply an thrilling time; I actually hope that extra folks get the prospect to expertise the therapeutic advantages of the plant, simply as you and I’ve, and hopefully, I simply need folks to have a greater high quality of life on the finish of the day.

Kalye: I do too, and I got here from working in an business the place it was fully forbidden and into an business the place it’s the primary factor. I’ve truly served my outdated bosses from Idaho in my budtender station. I used to be like, “I knew it!”

Emily: So full circle, although. Oh my gosh, that is loopy.

Kalye: Yeah. I used to be like, “You. I do know you. I do know you.” He stated, “Yeah. You don’t see me.” 

Emily: It’s so good, although, to see how issues can change for the higher in just some years. Now you’re doing one thing that you just love and stated you’ve all the time needed to be doing and serving outdated bosses. It’s good. 

Kalye: Yeah. Karma comes full circle. Completely. 

Emily: Oh, I consider it. This has been an exquisite dialog. I’m so glad I met my first actual budtender and wish to respect your time. Can I ask you an identical 4 questions I ask all of our visitors? 

Kalye: Sure. 

Emily: Superior. Okay. First up, what are you most pleased with in your life up to now?

Kalye: I’ve survived every little thing. I’ve actually survived every little thing. Home violence, automotive accidents. I’ve survived PTSD. I’ve survived studying methods to stroll, shifting from state to state, being homeless, and many alternative issues. I’ve survived it. 

Emily: And also you’re right here to share it with us. Thanks a lot for sharing that with us. I actually recognize it. 

Kalye: You’re welcome.

Emily: On the other aspect, what would your life appear like with out hashish?

Kalye: I might fully depend upon every little thing the docs instructed me to do. I might be fully wrapped round medication and alcohol. I might not have had a lightweight on the finish of the tunnel.

Emily: I’m so glad you discovered hashish and the sunshine on the finish of your tunnel. In the event you may return 10, 20, 30 years in the past and provides your self only one piece of recommendation, cannabis-related or not, what wouldn’t it be?

Kalye: Oh, most likely transfer sooner.

Emily: From Idaho to Oregon is a world of distinction. I can’t even think about.

Kalye: 100%. 

Emily: Does Idaho even have medicinal hashish in any respect? 

Kalye: They don’t have medical hashish in any respect. 

Emily: It’s one of many strictest states, proper?

Kalye: Yeah. Yeah. You’re fortunate if you happen to don’t get a life sentence. 

Emily: It’s insane. After which to go to Oregon, the place it’s just like the land of the free, take pleasure in all you possibly can with hashish. 

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